Comments on: Short doesn’t mean shallow http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow Information, Culture, and Belief Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:58:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Writing for the Web | D.S. MacLeod http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-3261 Writing for the Web | D.S. MacLeod Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:35:36 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-3261 [...] post from Jonathan Stray is over a year old, but I just stumbled upon it.  Great points on how the structure of news [...] [...] post from Jonathan Stray is over a year old, but I just stumbled upon it.  Great points on how the structure of news [...]

]]> By: links for 2011-07-27 « Blarney Fellow http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-3175 links for 2011-07-27 « Blarney Fellow Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:05:48 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-3175 [...] Jonathan Stray » Short doesn’t mean shallow Writing style needs to change to take advantage of the hyperlink. (tags: text storytelling journalism writing hypertext) [...] [...] Jonathan Stray » Short doesn’t mean shallow Writing style needs to change to take advantage of the hyperlink. (tags: text storytelling journalism writing hypertext) [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Stray http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-3169 Jonathan Stray Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:15:37 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-3169 You're right, thanks, fixed. You’re right, thanks, fixed.

]]> By: OlliS http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-3168 OlliS Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:09:15 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-3168 Whoops, you got the wrong Carr: it's Nic, not David. Whoops, you got the wrong Carr: it’s Nic, not David.

]]> By: Jonathan Stray » Designing journalism to be used http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-888 Jonathan Stray » Designing journalism to be used Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:58:38 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-888 [...] Nieman Journalism Lab this summer, and I also wrote about the use of links for deep storytelling here. But to make it short: linking is not yet part of professional journalism culture, and this creates [...] [...] Nieman Journalism Lab this summer, and I also wrote about the use of links for deep storytelling here. But to make it short: linking is not yet part of professional journalism culture, and this creates [...]

]]> By: Paul http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-880 Paul Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:34:03 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-880 This is *exactly* what I've been saying for the past year or so - so, so great to see others thinking the same thing. If we want to treat the Web as a medium, we have to explore what forms best suit the medium, and that's not just a case of distributing text, images and video/audio. It's about using the Web as a Web. The possibilities around this are fascinating, and *need* to be explored. This is *exactly* what I’ve been saying for the past year or so – so, so great to see others thinking the same thing. If we want to treat the Web as a medium, we have to explore what forms best suit the medium, and that’s not just a case of distributing text, images and video/audio. It’s about using the Web as a Web. The possibilities around this are fascinating, and *need* to be explored.

]]> By: Neuroskeptic http://jonathanstray.com/short-doesnt-mean-shallow/comment-page-1#comment-849 Neuroskeptic Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:49:52 +0000 http://jonathanstray.com/?p=1961#comment-849 I completely agree. I actually found this to be one of the biggest mental blocks to effective blogging - for a long time I was wedded to the idea that each post has to tell the whole (in my case usually scientific) story: which makes for long, complex posts. Yet in fact you can tell a long complex story in the form of a series of posts each of which expresses one idea. Once you get used to simply presenting one idea per post, it becomes easier to present complex ideas; I think it actually makes it harder to fool yourself (and others) with well-written, but logically flawed, arguments. Poor arguments are often of the form: interesting stuff -> distracting filler -> interesting conclusion that doesn't in fact follow If you commit to just posting about the interesting stuff, and never writing filler, it becomes a lot harder to do that. I completely agree. I actually found this to be one of the biggest mental blocks to effective blogging – for a long time I was wedded to the idea that each post has to tell the whole (in my case usually scientific) story: which makes for long, complex posts. Yet in fact you can tell a long complex story in the form of a series of posts each of which expresses one idea. Once you get used to simply presenting one idea per post, it becomes easier to present complex ideas; I think it actually makes it harder to fool yourself (and others) with well-written, but logically flawed, arguments. Poor arguments are often of the form:

interesting stuff -> distracting filler -> interesting conclusion that doesn’t in fact follow

If you commit to just posting about the interesting stuff, and never writing filler, it becomes a lot harder to do that.

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