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	<title>Comments on: The Surreal World of Jakarta Malls: A Photo Essay</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jakarta is a truly unequal city, but it’s never the fault of people who run the malls and who visit it.&quot; See. Its so easy to ignore ones role in it. Such stupidity and ignorance. 

I recommend those idiots a little experience in Scandinavia or Germany. Up to 74% top level tax rate. Just to get rid of such inequality. 

Such a nice country. 
Great potentials. 
Almost all natural resources au masse. 
Labour force to no end. 
And that is in vain because people are so STUPID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jakarta is a truly unequal city, but it’s never the fault of people who run the malls and who visit it.&#8221; See. Its so easy to ignore ones role in it. Such stupidity and ignorance. </p>
<p>I recommend those idiots a little experience in Scandinavia or Germany. Up to 74% top level tax rate. Just to get rid of such inequality. </p>
<p>Such a nice country.<br />
Great potentials.<br />
Almost all natural resources au masse.<br />
Labour force to no end.<br />
And that is in vain because people are so STUPID.</p>
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		<title>By: Doing what a tourist would do @ Jakarta &#171; My Internship Experience&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doing what a tourist would do @ Jakarta &#171; My Internship Experience&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Shopping are national past time for Jakarta city dwellers, the &#8220;Mall culture&#8221; is definitely [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jonathan,

Being an Indonesian who loves mall, I&#039;ll comment on your essay point by point.

1. On the introduction - I always have fond memories of studying in Melbourne, Australia, and spent my childhood holidays in Singapore. I love modern, clean, safe, and organized cities. In Jakarta or Bandung, I&#039;ve tried hard to find places that could be said as modern, clean, safe, and organized. There&#039;s nothing like mall. Jakarta is a truly unequal city, but it&#039;s never the fault of people who run the malls and who visit it.

2. Christmas is not a religious issue everywhere - not in Australia, Japan, Singapore. Plus, you must have realized that many children who visited the Santa booth were Chinese Christians. I know that some Muslim parents would advise their children to stay away (and it&#039;s more true in Indonesia), but really I am sure that kids who talked to Santa have some Christian background.

3. It&#039;s same Friday nights elsewhere in Asia and in downtown Australia and NZ, with teens talking in dozen of different language.

4. I disagree with the fried meat point. Food courts have diverse food - Sundanese, Padang, Chinese Indonesian (peranakan), Chinese, Japanese, Arabian, European...and they are not just fried meat. You get stir-fried and steamed veggies. Plus of course, chicken, fish, and lamb, although there&#039;s no pork. If there&#039;s McD or KFC, it&#039;s just like other food courts around the world. Burger and fries can bang to 40 thousands if you to a really preppy mall, but you can get less than that.

5. I am an elite. But really, you can sit on the food court and buy nothing and no one will bother you for hours.

6. I believe security post applies um, suspect profiling. 

7. Many social commentators get the &#039;skin whitening&#039; stuff wrong. Skin whitening is popular in Indonesia not because Indonesians want to be white. Indonesians like them because they want to be Asians - like the Japanese, Korean, or Thais do.

Luckily I have light skin so I don&#039;t need to buy them.

8. The corporates build mall for profit. I need it for public space. I wish I could go to parks, attending open air concert, and touring Jakarta&#039;s downtown on my two feet, but as a Chinese middle class (in short, an elite) I don&#039;t feel like it.</description>
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<p>Being an Indonesian who loves mall, I&#8217;ll comment on your essay point by point.</p>
<p>1. On the introduction &#8211; I always have fond memories of studying in Melbourne, Australia, and spent my childhood holidays in Singapore. I love modern, clean, safe, and organized cities. In Jakarta or Bandung, I&#8217;ve tried hard to find places that could be said as modern, clean, safe, and organized. There&#8217;s nothing like mall. Jakarta is a truly unequal city, but it&#8217;s never the fault of people who run the malls and who visit it.</p>
<p>2. Christmas is not a religious issue everywhere &#8211; not in Australia, Japan, Singapore. Plus, you must have realized that many children who visited the Santa booth were Chinese Christians. I know that some Muslim parents would advise their children to stay away (and it&#8217;s more true in Indonesia), but really I am sure that kids who talked to Santa have some Christian background.</p>
<p>3. It&#8217;s same Friday nights elsewhere in Asia and in downtown Australia and NZ, with teens talking in dozen of different language.</p>
<p>4. I disagree with the fried meat point. Food courts have diverse food &#8211; Sundanese, Padang, Chinese Indonesian (peranakan), Chinese, Japanese, Arabian, European&#8230;and they are not just fried meat. You get stir-fried and steamed veggies. Plus of course, chicken, fish, and lamb, although there&#8217;s no pork. If there&#8217;s McD or KFC, it&#8217;s just like other food courts around the world. Burger and fries can bang to 40 thousands if you to a really preppy mall, but you can get less than that.</p>
<p>5. I am an elite. But really, you can sit on the food court and buy nothing and no one will bother you for hours.</p>
<p>6. I believe security post applies um, suspect profiling. </p>
<p>7. Many social commentators get the &#8216;skin whitening&#8217; stuff wrong. Skin whitening is popular in Indonesia not because Indonesians want to be white. Indonesians like them because they want to be Asians &#8211; like the Japanese, Korean, or Thais do.</p>
<p>Luckily I have light skin so I don&#8217;t need to buy them.</p>
<p>8. The corporates build mall for profit. I need it for public space. I wish I could go to parks, attending open air concert, and touring Jakarta&#8217;s downtown on my two feet, but as a Chinese middle class (in short, an elite) I don&#8217;t feel like it.</p>
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